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Post by june on Jul 6, 2008 6:07:17 GMT -1
Hi June, I've got a photograph of me at one of those clubs taken in 1964 and if I can get it on here, I'll let you have a peep. They had a photographer with a monkey and he made you pose with it in your arms. The monkey ended up with its hand down the top of my dress......obviously been trained by the photographer.  Does anyone remember the Ponderosa club behind the express just off oldham rd an a bit further up behind Grannellis the regency club ?? look forward to seeing it lisa ,which club was it taken in  |
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Post by Lisa on Jul 6, 2008 10:17:55 GMT -1
Hi June, I think it was the Regency Club. I'm not very good at remembering names of Clubs. I may have written it on the back of the photo.....I'll have a look for it today and put it in PhotoBucket.
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Post by Tigger on Jul 6, 2008 18:28:43 GMT -1
Hi June....
That being the case then... I have been there (Ponderosa) a few times..
Narrow stairs leading to a long narrow(ish) club (front widow used to overlook New Cross/Oldham Road). From the top of the stairs - Bar and seating area to the right... dancefloor and stage etc to the left.. if my memory serves me well... it WAS over 30 years ago...
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Post by june on Jul 8, 2008 6:32:38 GMT -1
tigger ,ya remember more than i do ;D do you remember any of the Mancinic's who owned it ,the dad Rudi Mancini owend th Smithfield Vaults (pub) on swan st and later moved to Blackpool an he an his wife Pat owned thse Queens hotel there
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Post by Tigger on Jul 8, 2008 10:44:20 GMT -1
Hi June,
Met Rudi a couple of time, very nice chap. Also the 'Vaults... and the Queens Hotel on the front (very good dancefloor.)
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Post by angela on Jul 17, 2008 9:44:09 GMT -1
This thread brought back many memories of what I call town people.It was a community I loved.Several generations of my family had trodden the path before me.Had some fab times in these pubs and clubs.Didnt really start until 70's but know many of the characters mentioned.Some others I remember were Kennedys who had pet shop in Tib St.Doormen -Frank Platt.Charlie Pearson,Sommervilles.Johnny Toto,Brian Dunn and co and many more.Many who used the pubs around Oldham st were steel erectors,my dad being one of them.Met up with him sometimes in Ag club in Tib St.Loved pubs in that area.So many characters mainly from all the inner city areas.Seemed to be plenty of money about in those days.It also felt that little bit 'dangerous'to me.Very excited when I could get in the LITTLE gEORGE IN THE AFTERNOONS AFTER CLOSING.3 KNOCKS ON THE WINDOW AND ALL THAT.
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Post by june on Jul 17, 2008 13:45:59 GMT -1
This thread brought back many memories of what I call town people.It was a community I loved.Several generations of my family had trodden the path before me.Had some fab times in these pubs and clubs.Didnt really start until 70's but know many of the characters mentioned.Some others I remember were Kennedys who had pet shop in Tib St.Doormen -Frank Platt.Charlie Pearson,Sommervilles.Johnny Toto,Brian Dunn and co and many more.Many who used the pubs around Oldham st were steel erectors,my dad being one of them.Met up with him sometimes in Ag club in Tib St.Loved pubs in that area.So many characters mainly from all the inner city areas.Seemed to be plenty of money about in those days.It also felt that little bit 'dangerous'to me.Very excited when I could get in the LITTLE gEORGE IN THE AFTERNOONS AFTER CLOSING.3 KNOCKS ON THE WINDOW AND ALL THAT. hi Angela you just took my hubby on a trip down mem lane ,he used to drink with Frankie platt an charlie pearson in the glue pot pub in the old smitfield market they were friends of his brothers Big Billy who owned lots of Barrows down there he knows Brian Dunn (the bear ) Raphl and John summerfield and johnny toto he was always was in the AG club(Arther Griffiths) he even had his own key as all members did when Stan owned it would'nt surprise me if he had'nt had apint with your dad in there in the 70's |
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Post by bodzy3 on Jul 25, 2008 23:39:08 GMT -1
With Ref to Tony Hulme , i was speaking to a guy yesderday who confirmed that Tony Hulme is still going strong, Apparently he lives in Hollinwood and still dresses as good as he as he always did , he is about 75-77, and is fit and well He has a drink in Oldham pretty regular in a little pub in a side street called the" Heart an Something " dont know the proper name of it ,the street is next to the old Yates Wine Lodge in Oldham town centre ,Just nice to know that somebody else made it this far as well ... thought I'd let you all know
bodzy
I hear that Johnny Toto is still alive as well living on Queens Rd Collyhurst, used to know him well at one time
I used to work in the Band on the Wall in the late Fifty's and I drunk in Mother Mac's since them days so I used to know some of the Barrow Boys ,then as well
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Post by june on Jul 26, 2008 15:07:16 GMT -1
hi Bodzy Ray say's its nice to know johnny toto still alive ,the wharehouse they had was in edge st where the gluepot pot was ,we went in the band on the wall a lot but more the late sixties ,wen't down church st today where the barrows were moved to from back piccadily only about 1pm and not a barrow in sight last time we wen't down there barrow girl Linda Brannick was still there she's been there from 60/70's but even she was'nt there this time
Angela ,ray's say's Brian Dunn no longer alive ,Charlie Pearson still going strong ..
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Post by june on Jul 26, 2008 15:09:19 GMT -1
Bodzy mean't to say Ray say's to ask you who the barrow boys u knew ,he might know them ..
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Post by codger on Jul 31, 2008 12:04:10 GMT -1
The clubs I remember best, obviously the Southern where Eddie Jones, Noel Dwyer and Pete Ogden kept the crowd in place, best cabaret to me was Billy Fury followed by Sounds Incorporated who backed many bands in the sixties. Domino was okay, Mannings a good laugh and the Northern a bit strict for my liking. In Manchester town anyone recall the John Peel club near the Silver Moon off Cannon Street. Salami's and the Penny Farthing for an afternoon, or maybe the Golden Gate, Kellys with Lol Brotherton on the door and the Picador for the cabaret or disco. For music I remember the Cavern, Forty Thieves, Heaven and Hell and of course the Twisted Wheel. What was the club near the dogs home,Harpurhey, anyone remember? or the Clan Bar around from the Paramount before Foo Foo got hold of it...oh! and the Picador facing snacktime and the Haunch of Venison.
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Post by june on Aug 1, 2008 5:08:00 GMT -1
hiya codger ,my hubby remembers all of them clubs i remember a few went in Silver moon /Kelly a lot didnt think the picador was afficing snacktimes though thought that was a club called the Bus Stop ,,, he remembers Lol well , he can;t remeber the name of the club near the dogs home though .... |
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Post by Tigger on Aug 1, 2008 10:49:45 GMT -1
June n Codger... .... What was the club near the dogs home,Harpurhey, anyone remember? Twas called ...'The Police Club'... wooden hut more like with a Saturday Night Fever type dancefloor. Situated down 'Doggy Lane' just off a dirt track (now paved) at the back of the houses surrounded by trees. |
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Post by codger on Aug 1, 2008 11:07:26 GMT -1
Yes Tigger, that was the place described to a T.
June, Picador was the one on the corner that changed to Roadhouse I think, Bus Stop was right where bus stop still is and I think turned into a cafe of some sort. The things we did for a drink hey! What about the one on Tib st that just was called by its initials, up some stairs? Stage and Radio off Dale St and the Afrique down near Central Station...there are more in the purple haze of my mind.
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Post by june on Aug 1, 2008 12:38:18 GMT -1
the one on Tib st was the AG club codger an thanks for putting me right on the bus stop ,,wen't in snack time for somthing to eat used to go in the back plce resturant lol remember Rita working there she also used to be in the pipe band for st Pats |
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Post by bodzy3 on Aug 1, 2008 15:55:44 GMT -1
The clubs I remember best, obviously the Southern where Eddie Jones, Noel Dwyer and Pete Ogden kept the crowd in place, best cabaret to me was Billy Fury followed by Sounds Incorporated who backed many bands in the sixties. Domino was okay, Mannings a good laugh and the Northern a bit strict for my liking. In Manchester town anyone recall the John Peel club near the Silver Moon off Cannon Street. Salami's and the Penny Farthing for an afternoon, or maybe the Golden Gate, Kellys with Lol Brotherton on the door and the Picador for the cabaret or disco. For music I remember the Cavern, Forty Thieves, Heaven and Hell and of course the Twisted Wheel. What was the club near the dogs home,Harpurhey, anyone remember? or the Clan Bar around from the Paramount before Foo Foo got hold of it...oh! and the Picador facing snacktime and the Haunch of Venison. Hi Copdger Well You remember a few old mates of mine at the Southern Sporting Club ........ Eddie Jones was one of the lads we knocked about with from just before leaving school, one of our mates was a steeplejack who fell from a chimney and Eddie married his wife Amy we, drank together ,fought together , and by the sounds of that loved together , ive still got a few photos of Jones'ie and us lot dont get me wrong he was probably one of the hardest men to come out of Gorton in them days Still see him from time to time ,up to just recent he was working the door at the new pub on Debdale "the Bandstand" Still is an old mate ,, then Big Pete Ogden a mountain of a man but a gentle giant when he had to be , started on the coal rounds ,used to carry a coal-sack full with one hand , met him years later we both worked for the same security firm now he is living in an old peoples home in Wthenshawe Road ,his health is not good but if you remember Pete ( and who wouldnt ) you might remember Georgie Taylor his No 1 sidekick who not only worked the doors with but used to wrestle in the ring with him George wrestled under the name of Monty Brition ... two smashing fellas I'm proud to have as old mates and there all still in the land of the living bodzy |
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Post by bodzy3 on Aug 1, 2008 16:07:13 GMT -1
Bodzy mean't to say Ray say's to ask you who the barrow boys u knew ,he might know them .. Cant give you lots of names cos I was a kid back then I went into" Mothers " will all the guys I worked with in the building game and i used to sit right down at the bottom of the long narrow room, cos in them days the front doorwas in the corner of the pub and the bar went all the way down to where th fireplace is now but I do remember Larry Mcdermott and some of the Kennerdys ,I also remember Dennis Murghter (havent spelt that right ) but you could buy anything from a ton of coal to baby-clothes in there , I remember Mother Mac very well , and the fire in there , and I still use the pub regular to this day bodzy |
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Post by june on Aug 2, 2008 7:26:05 GMT -1
Bodzy mean't to say Ray say's to ask you who the barrow boys u knew ,he might know them .. Cant give you lots of names cos I was a kid back then I went into" Mothers " will all the guys I worked with in the building game and i used to sit right down at the bottom of the long narrow room, cos in them days the front doorwas in the corner of the pub and the bar went all the way down to where th fireplace is now but I do remember Larry Mcdermott and some of the Kennerdys ,I also remember Dennis Murghter (havent spelt that right ) but you could buy anything from a ton of coal to baby-clothes in there , I remember Mother Mac very well , and the fire in there , and I still use the pub regular to this day bodzy hi Bodzy ,Ray remebers mother macs but not one he wen't in much ..he remebers bobby and terry Macdermot ,all the Kennedys, Walter Ralph kenny and Jimmy Kennedy but he was no relation to the other 3, Dennis Murther rings a bell , he laffs an says most of the market an barrow pubs were the same you could by owt in em, always somthing being sold ;D |
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Post by Clive Dawber on Aug 3, 2008 3:45:58 GMT -1
Here's some names to ponder. I still have my membership cards for these clubs from the late 50's and early 60's.
The Gorton Loco Club on Chapman St., The Princess Club on Barlow Moor Road, Chorlton.
Manchester Jazz Club - resident band The Zenith Six.,Mister Smiths Club on Brazil Street.,
The two-twenty-nine club in Ashton.,The Starlight Room on Wilmslow Rd. Rosholme.,
The Domino Club on Grey Mare Lane, Openshaw.,The Tudor Club at the Ritz Ballroom.,
The New Alhambra Sporting Club in Openshaw.,Club 43 on Clarendon Rd.,
The Manchester Sports Guild on Long Millgate., Also remember a club calle ( I think ) which
became the Candlelight Club cos they didn't pay the electric bill !!.
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Post by Tigger on Aug 3, 2008 7:29:44 GMT -1
Also remember a club calle ( I think ) which became the Candlelight Club cos they didn't pay the electric bill !!. Could that be THE 'Candlelight Club' which STILL resides in Oldham....  |
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Post by jnealedroylsden on Aug 3, 2008 7:58:02 GMT -1
does anybody remember what I think was called "the Long Bar" thik if I remember rightly it was underneath the Gaumont cinema or have I dreamt it
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Post by Tigger on Aug 3, 2008 8:04:29 GMT -1
does anybody remember what I think was called "the Long Bar" thik if I remember rightly it was underneath the Gaumont cinema or have I dreamt it Nahhhhhh... you aint dreaming... never went in the place myself.. used to go to the club across the (Oxford) road though... TAKIS (and sometimes 'Tiffanys'). The most memorable thing about the Long Bar was just outside there were a set of downstairs public toilets. Out side the 'gents' stood (on a very regular basis) a 'Lady of pleasure' called..... 'Zipper Lil' (I jest ye not folks) - this was the name given to her by the local bobbies... and it stuck. Dont know if she was 'popular' - but she sure was 'famous' |
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Post by jnealedroylsden on Aug 3, 2008 9:26:20 GMT -1
does anybody remember what I think was called "the Long Bar" thik if I remember rightly it was underneath the Gaumont cinema or have I dreamt it Nahhhhhh... you aint dreaming... never went in the place myself.. used to go to the club across the (Oxford) road though... TAKIS (and sometimes 'Tiffanys'). The most memorable thing about the Long Bar was just outside there were a set of downstairs public toilets. Out side the 'gents' stood (on a very regular basis) a 'Lady of pleasure' called..... 'Zipper Lil' (I jest ye not folks) - this was the name given to her by the local bobbies... and it stuck. Dont know if she was 'popular' - but she sure was 'famous' I went in with a friend of mine who was in the bobbies at the time next time I see him will ask about "Zipper Lil" see if he remembers her |
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Post by Casso on Aug 3, 2008 20:56:23 GMT -1
The Long Bar was known far and wide as the Gaumont Long Bar,
and it was certainly pretty big. Rumour had it it was the longest bar in the UK ... yeah right.
Don't remember Zipper Lil though Tig, mind you we were still using buttons back then ...
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Post by Lisa on Aug 4, 2008 4:56:00 GMT -1
Tigger, Those downstairs public toilets you refer to have now been turned into a Bar, can you believe it? |
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Post by codger on Aug 4, 2008 8:15:57 GMT -1
Hi June, thanks for recalling the A&G, also recall the Blackbird Cafe at the back of Littlewoods for a crafty drink on a Sunday afternoon. Bodzy....met with Eddie at a lad called Pete Maunsell's sixtieth birthday bash about 3 years ago, still scary no matter what, i recall the death of the steeplejack but thought wife was called Amy? I may be wrong. Pete Ogden was the gentle giant and I had heard he was ill, used to see him in the Imperial where many of the acts used to come in for a pint of Wilsons during the interval at the Southern. Great pub in its heyday, I think the landlord went from there to the Mitchell in Beswick, funny how some pubs are never the same when certain landlords/landladies leave them.
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Post by Tigger on Aug 4, 2008 19:00:53 GMT -1
Tigger, Those downstairs public toilets you refer to have now been turned into a Bar, can you believe it? Oh my giddy Aunt..... your havin' me on... pull the other chain ;D... whats this place called... 'Room With A Loo' |
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Post by bodzy3 on Aug 6, 2008 14:48:58 GMT -1
Hey codger sorry if i didnt explain it properly , Harry Simpson, the kid in my class at school , who was the steeple jack was married to Amy , when Harry died Amy Smpson married Eddie Jones I used to drink in the Imp in them days when we were staff at the Southern ,we always called in before work if I remember right ,wasnt Alfonso Rossi sister ,Angelia the landady and her husband called John..... it was a good pub then later I drank round the corner in the Trav's when I used to do window cleaning with Leo the Irish Guy and years later Pete Ogdens daughter was living in the Imp she asked me to find Pete ,which wasnt hard cos I was working with him on securty , I told Pete, but he didnt want to know so I said nothing to her , never saw her again also I know the name Pete Maunsell but cant recall from where
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Post by codger on Aug 7, 2008 14:21:52 GMT -1
Hi Bodzy, great memories, Pete Maunsell was a well known footballer who lived on Green St which later became Dearoak Street I think. Another old Gorton Lad who had the Travs before a heart attack took him a couple of years ago was Alan Plimmer, best unpaid voice in Gorton.
You are right about Angela Rossi too, that stirred my memory as I had forgotten that fact. I remember taking back a truck full of empty Guinness bottles one Sunday night to the Imp and getting £1.10 s back, the future father in law bought a carry-out every time he went out but would never return the mt's. Yes 120 bottles, I got the 10s so bought chips and curry next door from Fongs, the fastest chippy emptier in the world.
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Post by marie fernandes on Aug 8, 2008 23:49:37 GMT -1
Hi Bodzy, I couldnt believe it when I read your reply to Codger. The name of Angela Rossi rang a bell. Surely this is the Angela Rossi who lived near me in Brookhouse Flats. The Rossi family were infamous in West Gorton. Alphonse her brother especially. They had an elder sister Doreen and a younger sister called Lily. I think there was also a younger brother called Antonio (Tony). Their mother was English and their father Italian and everyone was outside on their balconies to watch the "bobbies" taking Mr.Rossi away. He was accompanied by two other Italians wearing the green prison garb with black diamonds stitched on to strategic parts. Apparently they had been interred on Mellands fields on Mount Road, which was a prisoner of war camp. When I asked my Dad why they had these patches on the uniform he said they were there for the guards to aim their guns at to bring them down. Especially behind the kneecaps and elbows. During the war Italians were imprisoned because of Mussolini's involvement with Hitler.
Angela was "tough nut" then and was always getting people to join her gang. I got on the wrong side of her one day, probably not wanting to be friends with her and we had a big fight. I was always a quiet type of girl but I wasnt going to let her get the better of me, so it was a real humdinger of a fight. We ended up with some children egging us on and my Mum came running down three flights of stairs to split us up. I think that was my first and last fight ever. But she never came near me again. I often wonder what happened to them all as Angela and Alphonse were always lightfingered as youngsters.
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