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Post by cabbyjohn on Dec 4, 2010 15:07:02 GMT -1
I have a large collection of books on the history of Manchester and I found this early reference to Clayton in "The lost rivers of Manchester"
{ Just west of Gorton Lane the stream is joined by Clayton Brook. In fact Clayton Brook is probably larger than Corn Brook, and to add to it's enigma it's main source is in what is now Openshaw, and not in Clayton.
Mr. Higson who wrote Higsons history of Droylsden Writing in 1869 writes, "Clayton never has been a very exclusive neighbourhood. He describes is as Having 2,500 inhabitants and only three public houses, It is one of the most wretched and poverty stricken places.....
In Clayton, every man does what is right in his own eyes, and what with public houses, ritualistic churches, and dark and dirty ways, it does not seem a desirable residence for people who like comfort, but for anyone hankering after a revival of the dark ages, it is just the spot". He then goes on to mention that one of the main passtimes of the local youth is "To stand on the banks of the river Medlock and exchange insults and missiles with the youths of the township of Newton Heath" }
A poem from the mid fiteen hundreds refers to Clayton thus........
"As Satan was flying over Clayton for Hell, He was chaired in the breeze, likewise the smell, Quoth he, "I'm not sure in what country I roam, But I'm sure by the smell that I'm not far from home"
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Post by OLLY on Dec 4, 2010 15:42:44 GMT -1
IM HIDING BEHIND MI SOFA.........
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Post by jnealedroylsden on Dec 4, 2010 15:56:38 GMT -1
well they were very early books and I suppose it could be said of many a district,and it can say what it likes.......... but the Clayton I knew, where I was born and brought up was a great place ....................brilliant neighbours great schools and I always knew I was safe when I was "playing out"....................all my children were clayton children and they have turned out well, I'm proud of them..........and proud of my days in CLAYTON
and in the poem he refers to country ......mind you we did have smells from the industries in the area but they didn't do us any harm
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Post by cabbyjohn on Dec 4, 2010 16:30:14 GMT -1
I was born on Edge Lane, and moved to Clayton when I got married in 1965. Who can ever forget the aromatic delights of Dean and Woods, the bone yard or the Aniline? I still live in Clayton and I remember as a kid we used to go onto the the banks of the "Meddy" to have "Wars" with the kids of Newton Heath.
However as you say Jean, the people who lived in Clayton were second to none. Anybody brought up in this area knew what hard times were, but we just got on with it. There was no point in complaining because everybody else was in the same boat.
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Post by Lisa on Dec 5, 2010 10:07:22 GMT -1
Hi Jean & CabbieJohn, I agree about Clayton folk and a lot of other areas around Manchester. We were post-War babies and everyone was in the same boat and neighbours looked after one another. When I first moved back here to Manchester in 1983 I was looking forward to being part of that friendly/caring atmosphere that I remembered before I left in 1966. I was sadly disappointed and dont think I will ever see those days again. Last week I telephoned a neighbour to ask if he wanted me to sit in with his disabled wife while he went shopping because of this bad weather. Anyone would have thought I was offering to burgle his house from the response. Maybe people these days are too suspicious and have forgotten what 'being a good neighbour is all about'. I'm glad I remember those days in Clayton when everyone helped one another without a thought.
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Post by juliejulie on Jan 16, 2011 21:21:59 GMT -1
Hi new member here , both my parents were brought up in Clayton and have very fond memories No such thing today as doing anything from the heart , today if you do a good turn they want paying
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Post by jnealedroylsden on Jan 17, 2011 4:20:52 GMT -1
Hi new member here , both my parents were brought up in Clayton and have very fond memories No such thing today as doing anything from the heart , today if you do a good turn they want paying Hello Julie whereabouts in Clayton were your Parents living, I lived in Turner street that ran at side of the pub called Greens Arms.......maybe Lisa and myself knew them......
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Post by lin on Jan 17, 2011 7:33:57 GMT -1
Hi Julie...welcome to manmates...I was born in clayton, glamis avenue but moved from there when I was around one year old..hope you're enjoying the site? happy browsing.
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Post by Lisa on Jan 17, 2011 7:38:47 GMT -1
Welcome Julie, Hope you enjoy the site. Please make sure you read the Forum Rules and we all look hearing more from you.
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