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Post by 0urkid on Aug 20, 2010 14:44:27 GMT -1
I've just been to Sainsbury's to buy a couple of packets of Lancashire Eccles cakes, and find that the supermarket is now selling its own brand. They look exactly the same as the originals, but the description now says 'Butter-enriched' whereas the Edmonds type used the phrase 'made with butter', or something like that.
Oh, and the price has increased by 10p a packet. I didn't buy any, as I am sure they will be inferior in taste, so they have lost out this time.
I will have to find another source. Why don't they leave our food alone?
Ever the search for bigger profits.
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Post by lin on Aug 20, 2010 15:05:24 GMT -1
I wish I could buy some Eccles cakes, they've not had them in the stores here in C/wall for a very long time...maybe they will be reviving them..
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 22, 2010 9:29:40 GMT -1
Just been to Asda, only to discover that they also have their own brand, now. Also, 10p dearer. I bought a packet to try, but I am sure the recipe is not quite the same, and I am pretty sure that they have down-sized them. Significantly, there is no weight printed on the packaging. If anyone on here buys the originals, I would like to compare some of the data on the packet, also compare the weight of the cakes. Mine weigh between 45 - 50 grams each. I just hate being short-changed.  |
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Post by lin on Aug 22, 2010 9:40:37 GMT -1
Our kid...lucky you I can't get Eccles cake where I am, I don't know why cos they used to sell them.?
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Post by Lisa on Aug 22, 2010 10:33:04 GMT -1
Hi Ourkid, Why not e-mail the manufacturers of the Eccles Cakes and show them up? I've noticed a lot of products being down-sized without a word to the customers or explanation. Its amazing what a letter or e-mail can produce. I wrote to M&S ages ago about Hydrogenated Fats and their response was pathetic and dismissive.......then weeks later I noticed posters on their Food Hall walls stating that they had removed all the dangerous HVO's. If more people complained, then manufacturers would have to listen to us. I always tell them that I am not buying their products any more until they improve their recipes.....it usually works.
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 22, 2010 10:48:31 GMT -1
Our kid...lucky you I can't get Eccles cake where I am, I don't know why cos they used to sell them.? Well, Lin, it might be the distance they have to be transported in relation to demand. I have now found the original list of ingredients, and I was right. Here are the two lists. Edmonds. Vostizza Currants (20%), Raisins (20%), Untreated Wheat Flour, Butter (9.1%), Sugar, Water, Vegetable Fat, Vegetable Margarine, Dried Skimmed Milk, Salt. Asda recipe. Vine fruits (48%) (Currants, Raisins) Wheat Flour, unsalted Butter (10%), Water, Sugar, Vegetable Fat (Vegetable Oils, Water, Salt, Emulsifier (Mono- and Glycerides of Fatty Acids), Invert Sugar Syrup (Fructose), Salt, Skimmed Milk Powder. Fructose, a cheap substitute for sugar, is particularly harmful, especially in the case of diabetics. "Mono and glycerides" is another term for trans fats. It is obvious that Asda and Sainsburys do not have the welfare of the customers at heart, vending this rubbish. All I need to know now is the individual weight of the cakes, in order to assess the true size of this rip-off. I shall be contacting Asda and Sainsburys, later, for their comments. That should be a real laugh. |
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 22, 2010 10:51:08 GMT -1
Sorry, Lisa. Missed your post. As you can see, I shall be doing as you suggest. I am composing a letter to Edmonds, Ardwick, today for some further information.
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Post by lin on Aug 22, 2010 11:00:11 GMT -1
Our kid...lucky you I can't get Eccles cake where I am, I don't know why cos they used to sell them.? Well, Lin, it might be the distance they have to be transported in relation to demand. I have now found the original list of ingredients, and I was right. Here are the two lists. Edmonds. Vostizza Currants (20%), Raisins (20%), Untreated Wheat Flour, Butter (9.1%), Sugar, Water, Vegetable Fat, Vegetable Margarine, Dried Skimmed Milk, Salt. Asda recipe. Vine fruits (48%) (Currants, Raisins) Wheat Flour, unsalted Butter (10%), Water, Sugar, Vegetable Fat (Vegetable Oils, Water, Salt, Emulsifier (Mono- and Glycerides of Fatty Acids), Invert Sugar Syrup (Fructose), Salt, Skimmed Milk Powder. Fructose, a cheap substitute for sugar, is particularly harmful, especially in the case of diabetics. "Mono and glycerides" is another term for trans fats. It is obvious that Asda and Sainsburys do not have the welfare of the customers at heart, vending this rubbish. All I need to know now is the individual weight of the cakes, in order to assess the true size of this rip-off. I shall be contacting Asda and Sainsburys, later, for their comments. That should be a real laugh. When we used to have Eccles cakes here they were not the same..used to get them at the above stores you mentioned and also Tesco. |
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Post by Lisa on Aug 22, 2010 11:06:45 GMT -1
Hi Ourkid, I'd also question the 'margarine'......because it usually contains HVO's but doesnt have to say on the packet.....just 'margarine'. Unless the customers start kicking back, they will put absolutely anything in the food. Even the FSA (Food Standards Agency) isnt pushing enough for clearer labelling. We've heard this for years about labelling and its still questionable.  |
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Post by Lisa on Aug 22, 2010 11:16:28 GMT -1
Hi Ourkid, If you're any good at baking, I have the recipe for Eccles Cakes if you want it.....then you can be sure you know what goes in them. I've just been to Sainsbury's to buy a couple of packets of Lancashire Eccles cakes, and find that the supermarket is now selling its own brand. They look exactly the same as the originals, but the description now says 'Butter-enriched' whereas the Edmonds type used the phrase 'made with butter', or something like that. Oh, and the price has increased by 10p a packet. I didn't buy any, as I am sure they will be inferior in taste, so they have lost out this time. I will have to find another source. Why don't they leave our food alone? Ever the search for bigger profits. |
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 22, 2010 12:20:08 GMT -1
Lisa. I don't think that Edmonds have down-sized theirs, and I am not even sure that they make them for the supermarkets. However, I have the MDs details from their website, and I shall be writing to him, expressing my concerns.
As for margarine, Lisa, the same goes for shortening.
We'll all be murdered in our beds. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mo on Aug 23, 2010 10:02:26 GMT -1
OH its been years since i had a Eccles cake if it what iam thinking of. Was it a round can of cake full of currants . IF so i loved them and always had some on my visit to the UK . Been a Longgggg time since my last visit 1992 . Like i always had a steak & kidney pudding from the chip shop when there mmuuuummmmmmm
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Post by Lisa on Aug 23, 2010 14:35:17 GMT -1
Those are the ones Mo.....FLY'S PIES, as they are also known. ;D  OH its been years since i had a Eccles cake if it what iam thinking of. Was it a round can of cake full of currants . IF so i loved them and always had some on my visit to the UK . Been a Longgggg time since my last visit 1992 . Like i always had a steak & kidney pudding from the chip shop when there mmuuuummmmmmm |
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Post by Lisa on Aug 23, 2010 14:47:23 GMT -1
Yep, but we'll die smiling. ;D Lisa. I don't think that Edmonds have down-sized theirs, and I am not even sure that they make them for the supermarkets. However, I have the MDs details from their website, and I shall be writing to him, expressing my concerns. As for margarine, Lisa, the same goes for shortening. We'll all be murdered in our beds. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 23, 2010 15:24:22 GMT -1
Yep, but we'll die smiling. ;D Lisa. I don't think that Edmonds have down-sized theirs, and I am not even sure that they make them for the supermarkets. However, I have the MDs details from their website, and I shall be writing to him, expressing my concerns. As for margarine, Lisa, the same goes for shortening. We'll all be murdered in our beds. ;D ;D ;D Lisa, incorrigible is the only word I can think of. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by mo on Aug 23, 2010 22:31:35 GMT -1
Thats right lisa thats what we called them FLY'S PIES it all comeing back to me LOL
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Post by 0urkid on Aug 25, 2010 4:55:31 GMT -1
Hi Ourkid, If you're any good at baking, I have the recipe for Eccles Cakes if you want it.....then you can be sure you know what goes in them. Lisa. Thanks a lot. I'll check to see if the Memsahib has a recipe in her library of cookery books. If not, I'll get back to you. |
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