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Post by Tigger on May 28, 2008 16:38:13 GMT -1
Hi… and its nice to be back on the scene… not that I’ve been away… just very busy.
Many will remember the below advert/request and all the information that followed from it from some fantastic people out there.
Though many happy memories through contact with ex-members/dancers of the Pop Inn were created – including contacting the actual winners of the dance competition in question – I have still to make contact or even gain a contact number/address for the ‘Linda’ in question.
LOOKING FOR LINDA: Linda along with another person choreographed a line dance for a competition at the POP INN, Manchester. The Americans have always laid claim to have produced the FIRST modern Line Dance and that dance being ‘The Bus Stop’ around 1975. This dance preceded ‘The Bus Stop’ by 7 years. Linda was aged around 17 and lived either in Hassall or Mouldsworth Avenue (or very close by) in the Old Moat area of Withington, Manchester. It is important and URGENT that Linda is found.
The search for ‘Linda’ has been the subject of extensive press and media coverage covering America, Australia, mainland Europe and the UK for the past 5 years. CAN YOU HELP?? (taylormademusic@yahoo.com)
The dance came second …but it created a buzz that is still reverberating today… in the shape of Soul Line or line Dancing. More than a piece of history was created with that dance. I’m not saying THAT was the very first modern day line dance – I am saying that it was created in MANCHESTER at least seven years before the Americans caught on to the idea.
The dance was (later) called ’30 Something’ and by today’s standards.. its pretty basic. ..except that it had moves that are in most of today’s dances… and it went in two directions (ie danced facing 12 and 6 o’clock alternately) … again ‘unique’ for any dance of that time.
The dance was choreographed by two people, one of whom has already been found … whilst the other is the elusive Linda.
Some personal details of ‘Linda’….
16 or 17 at the time of the dance, 5’7-5’8 in height, dark hair (in bobbed style) slim build, longish face. I seem to recall she may have had a Brother who was in the armed forces at the time.
Do you think you could help in tracing Linda ?.....
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Post by Casso on May 28, 2008 21:58:39 GMT -1
"LINE" Dancing ... I'm thinking more of jiving in the late 50's, don't know b***er-all about line dancing. Sorry.
As well as jiving in pairs, there was something we called the Routines, whereby the same two folk didn't touch each other, but danced the same steps in unison - and this developed into what might be called Line Dancing.
Any number of people could be involved, usually starting side by side in a line, all doing the same step routine. I've never thought of it as choreographed, but guess someone must have thought it up?
Not sure that Olly will remember it, but maybe he remembers his dad telling him ...
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Post by OLLY on May 29, 2008 3:19:47 GMT -1
HIYA CASSO.....  ....YOUR RIGHT....I USED TO DO THE ROUTINE WITH THE REST OF OUR GANG........WE USED TO HAVE 20 OR SO DOING IT IN TWO OR THREE LINES DEPENDING HOW MUCH ROOM WE HAD......... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Lisa on May 29, 2008 14:46:47 GMT -1
Hi Tigger, I have an old friend from my Clayton days called Lynda who teaches Line Dancing who now lives in Cheshire.....I will ask her if she is the one you are looking for.
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Post by Tigger on May 29, 2008 15:39:54 GMT -1
Hi Lisa,
That is very much appreciated - thank you.
It would be a strange twist if your Lynda (from Clayton) ended up being THAT particular Linda... and becoming a Line Dance Instructor.
Interesting slant regarding 'Routines'... My Mother tried so hard to get me into Jiving.. but alas..'A Line' legs... just couldn't get the rythmn (nowt straightforward with me when it comes to dancing..lol). This cost me and my dance partner valuable points in later years - and she was superb.
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Post by Tigger on May 29, 2008 15:42:57 GMT -1
ps.... Casso... Line dancing is pretty cool in NZ.. I could put you in contact with a few people who run classes down there.. both the North & South Islands.
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Post by Casso on May 30, 2008 1:35:12 GMT -1
Hiya Tigger (where does that come from, Wind in the Willows or something similar?).
Thanks for the offer to learn Line Dancing - but no thanks - never could waltz or foxtrot or any of that stuff, and was barely passable at jiving (usually at Chick Hibberts). Thought I was world class at smooching though ...
Glad you remember the Routines Olly, think that makes you a year older than me?
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Post by OLLY on May 30, 2008 2:50:04 GMT -1
HOWS IT GOING CASSO........YOU WERE ON THE RIGHT LINES WITH TIGGER........A. A. MILNE`S FRIEND I BELIEVE...... WAS NEVER INTO LINE DANCING MYSELF...... JUST A KEEP FIT CLASS TO MUSIC TO ME.....THE OLD COSMO`S GONE NOW CASSO FLAT AS A FLUTE IT IS........AND THE OLD ENGLISH STEEL SITE IN OPENSHAW.......IS BEING DEVELOPED.....THERES A 17 MILLION POUND ...GREGGS BAKERY BEING BUILT.....WITH THE AID OF A 7 MILLION POUND GRANT......THEY MUST HAVE BEEN SHORT OF CASH......  |
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Post by Casso on May 30, 2008 20:42:00 GMT -1
Cheers Olly, I think it was Alan who told me yonks ago that the Cosmo was derelict ... Aaaah those evenings spent outside clutching my money, and begging "Will ya take me in Missus?" or more likely, "Will ya take me in Mister?" (I think that's been mentioned previously).
And Greggs Bakery had to borrow 7mil ... who'd have thought they'd be short of bread?
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Post by Tigger on Jun 2, 2008 10:43:21 GMT -1
Hi...
In keeping with the thread....
Totally forgot to mention the names of the winners of the competition:
Pete Browne and Jean Dawson....
and even though they won... they didnt recieve the 1st prize (holiday)... not too sure if they recieved anything in compensation.
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Post by lin on Jun 12, 2008 6:27:17 GMT -1
ps.... Casso... Line dancing is pretty cool in NZ.. I could put you in contact with a few people who run classes down there.. both the North & South Islands. HI TIGGER..DONE LINE DANCING MYSELF, BUT THAT WAS IN THE STATES, NOT DONE IT FOR YEARS NOW. |
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Post by Tigger on Jun 12, 2008 19:32:04 GMT -1
Hi Lin... ..and is still pretty big from what I understand. A few places in Manchester and surrounding places still burn the floor with this genre of dancing. Good fun, good for socialising and a great variety of music - not just 'Country'. Just wonder where 'Linda' is really......  |
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Post by lin on Jun 13, 2008 6:08:56 GMT -1
HI TIGGER, YES ITS STILL PREETY BIG OVER IN THE STATES FOR CERTAIN, BUT ITS MOSTLY DONE TO COUNTRY MUSIC OVER THERE...SOME OF THE PLACES WE WENT TO WERE REALLY BIG DANCE FLOORS, AND THERE WERE LINES UPON LINES OF THEM DANCING, EVERYONE OF THEM UIN SYNC AND HAVING GREAT FUN  |
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Post by Lisa on Jun 13, 2008 7:08:18 GMT -1
Hi Tigger, I didnt forget.......I telephoned Lynda and left a message asking if she knew the Pop Inn......I am still awaiting a phonecall from her. Hi Lin... ..and is still pretty big from what I understand. A few places in Manchester and surrounding places still burn the floor with this genre of dancing. Good fun, good for socialising and a great variety of music - not just 'Country'. Just wonder where 'Linda' is really...... |
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Post by Tigger on Jun 13, 2008 15:00:46 GMT -1
Eeeee..... ta Chuck!! (seriously).. all leads welcome
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Post by Tigger on Jul 10, 2008 21:39:35 GMT -1
Hi Tigger, I didnt forget.......I telephoned Lynda and left a message asking if she knew the Pop Inn......I am still awaiting a phonecall from her. |
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Post by Lisa on Jul 11, 2008 7:14:45 GMT -1
Hi Tigger, No Lynda didnt get back to me. Thanks for reminding me. I left a message for her on her phone, so will ring her again tomorrow. Tried sending her an e-mail just now and it came back undelivered, Will check it out. Thanks for reminding me.
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Post by Tigger on Jul 13, 2008 18:11:38 GMT -1
Grabbed this off a dance web-site. This is the dance that all the fuss is about. When going through this script you have to remember it was forty years ago - when things (and dances) were a a tad more simplistic... ;D ;D 30 Something
(The Original Version) Choreographed by: William Sevone and 'Scorpio' Linda, Manchester, England. 1968 (see Dance History) Choreographed to: "That Old Time Feeling"...Roy Redmond Two Wall Line Dance: 16 Count - Beginner Dance start's with feet slightly apart (with weight on both feet) Dance History: Choreographed for a set routine disco dancing competition that took place either early or late 1968.
The dance (performed by the choreographers) was placed second in the final, but didn’t not have a title - now it has, be it '30 Something' years later (2000).
Some choreographer's may be embarrassed looking back at their first attempt's of putting a dance together - I'm not !!.......William Sevone note: the wording within this dance sheet has been 'tidied up' whilst leaving the original steps in place - 08/20/024x Bobbing Diagonal Kick's-Together1 - 2 Bend both knee's slightly forward. Straighten up - kicking right foot diagonally left. . 3 - 4 Step right next to left - bending both knees slightly forward. Straighten up - kicking left foot diagonally right. 5 - 6 Step right next to left - bending both knees slightly forward. Straighten up - kicking right foot diagonally left. 7 - 8 Step right next to left - bending both knees slightly forward. Straighten up - kicking left foot diagonally right. Left Side Kick. Step Behind. Side Step. 1/2 Right Turn.9 Kick left foot out to left side. 10 (bending knee's slightly forward) Step left foot behind right. 11 (straightening up) Step right foot to right side. 12 Turn 1/2 right on ball of right foot-stepping left foot to left side. (Bobbing) Weave. 13 (bending knee's slightly forward) Step right foot behind left. 14 (straightening up) Step left foot to left side. 15 (bending knee's slightly forward) Cross right foot over left. 16 (straightening up) Step left foot to left side. Other suggested music: Wine, Women and Song - Patty Loveless (122 bpm) Powerful Thing - Trisha Yearwood (148 bpm) I Wouldn’t Lay My Guitar Down - Mike Henderson (150 bpm) |
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Post by Tigger on Jul 13, 2008 18:19:29 GMT -1
Interesting to note (maybe ) is that William Sevone is STILL choreographing dances, some of them being performed on youtube. |
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Post by grover on Oct 30, 2009 0:13:45 GMT -1
Maybe Sevone knows where she is - he is at:
williamsevone@yahoo.com.au <williamsevone@yahoo.com.au>
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Post by Tigger on Jan 15, 2010 21:45:07 GMT -1
Hi Grover,
I'm 101% certain William Sevone doesn't know where Linda is. This is going to be one of lifes little mysteries.
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Post by june on Jan 16, 2010 7:13:33 GMT -1
Helloo Tigger nice to see you popping in |
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Post by Lisa on Jan 17, 2010 14:53:09 GMT -1
Hi Tigger. Has Olly finally let you out of the cloakroom? I wondered where you'd got to. Nice to see you back on here. x
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Post by Tigger on Jan 27, 2010 21:50:24 GMT -1
Took me hell of a time to pick that lock... then i had to remove the chain... separate the red and blue wires... remove the alarm clock (which was attached to a stick of dynamite).......
I have been kept quite busy with family (and socia)l business in Malaysia and Australia - and its still ongoing.. but to a lesser extent though come this CNY it will be frantic again - but I will be in Manchester for the Banquet.
.... and Im STILL looking for Linda.
Tell you what.. put an advert in any paper and you would be surprised at the the number of men who reply calling themselves Linda... lololol. I wonder if the name 'Linda' has some other meaning with the Gay fraternity.. I'm told not... but one never knows.
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Post by Lisa on Jan 28, 2010 8:12:50 GMT -1
Hi Tigger, You are right when you say about putting ads in papers. I was looking for an old school friend called Christina Briggs and put an ad in the M.E.N In Touch column. I found all of my old schoolfriends apart from Christina but got this phonecall from a man saying he was her brother. What I should have done was ask him first what her hair colour was but instead I believed what he said and went along with it. He was very cagey when I asked for her contact number and made some excuse about her living abroad and couldnt be contacted. I asked him to pass on my phone number and to tell her I was looking for her. As I predicted I never heard a thing. It just goes to show that there are weirdos out there who spend their time ringing people and pretending to have news of lost friends.   |
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....YOUR RIGHT....I USED TO DO THE ROUTINE WITH THE REST OF OUR GANG........WE USED TO HAVE 20 OR SO DOING IT IN TWO OR THREE LINES DEPENDING HOW MUCH ROOM WE HAD......... ;D ;D ;D
